You like it or not, Valentine’s Day is upon us. It is a recent import: came in the same box with McDonald and outsourcing – accidentally. Like most invasive imported species, it is thriving in the new land, surpassing its success in the native land. That is not a surprise. There was a saying in our childhood about the food habit of a Hindu who just converted to Muslim: he eats more beef than a life long Muslim.
But it got me thinking how skilled we are in the matters of heart. I analyzed endless depiction of romantic gestures in epics to Hindi movies. I dissected countless stories of my friends told me about their adventures. I also threw in two cents of my own experience. At the end it boils down to this: when it comes to romance Indian men are clueless. The problem, as I understand, can be summarized in simple linguistic confusion: Indian men cannot tell the difference between woo and woe.
Let’s start with our two great epics. Shall I say more? In one it took five men to woo one woman. Wait. There was no wooing at all: it was a macho contest. No flower, no chocolate, nothing. Not even lousy pick up lines. In the other, the hero lets his brother takes care of his wife. I bet you Lakshmana was the one buying Valentine for Sita. It is rumored that Ravana treated her better than her own husband. After all the trouble, what did she get at the end? I would think at least a flower bouquet from Rama with a note saying “I’m sorry.” That would have been nice. Instead, she was set on fire. Not very romantic, you agree.
You would not find many romantic men in Indian mythology. I have searched. No wonder Krishna is the greatest Indian lover. Granted he has more wives than I have bank balance. But do not forget how he met all of them, except a handful (eight to be precise). It was a rescue mission, not a romantic rendezvous. It was a case of reverse Stockholm syndrome: the abducted hostages bonded with the rescuer. None of them had a choice. Besides, I am not sure how many women would find polygamy to be the epitome of romantic gesture. How many stories did you ever hear about Kama? Yes, he is supposed to be our god of love. I rest my case.
That was long time ago, you say. We have learned a lot since the days of Kama and Rama. I move to the Hindi movies of our time. As far back as I can remember, young men of India have always honed their wooing skill based on the movies. They faithfully copied each and every detail the silver screen had to offer: from handkerchief to hair gel, from button less shirt to baggy pants. They memorized each song, they practised every dance. At the end they always wondered why the young women did not understand. Why the response to their practiced lines did not get the intended response. The movies taught them “no” is just a sign of coyness, a slap in the face is part of flirting. I must admit, though I had my suspicion, I was not sure until I grew up. I did not know what Hindi movies call romance has a slightly different name outside: it is called sexual harassment.
But I guess movies will be movies. At least in real life it is much better. From the stories I have heard, it surely does not look that way. You do not need the horror of all the stories. A few examples would suffice. I know you have your own stock of them. We all heard about the miser who went to honeymoon alone – to save money. He is no competition to Indian men. I know a friend who gave his wife an iron for their first marriage anniversary. Why you ask? He liked his clothes ironed. And the sad part is that till today he has no clue what is wrong with that. His defense: “It is an expensive iron.” How many Indian wives wish they married the miser; at least he left his wife alone.
May be it is just the lack of experience. Indian men, if exposed to right settings, are as romantic as they come. I heard a story of an NRI, who after spending many a years in Europe including Italy – the birth place of Giovanni Giacomo Casanova, came to India to get married. His first question to the prospective bride was this: “Do you know how to program in C?”
I admit I have no idea what that means. And I know there is a “C” in romance. But come on, do we have to be so obvious?
The best story though is from my friend J, one who lives in California. The story is about one of his fellow Indian student during his graduate study. The student was a smart, good looking, polite, and progressive young man. He was not bound by the norms of Indian culture and was proud of it. At that time he was dating another university student from one of those European countries. After a while, she realized that despite his brain and intention, he was not as well informed when it came to rituals of romantic courtship. She decided take the initiative to subtlety clue him in. After all she really liked him.
On the evening in question, she dropped by his room with a bouquet of flowers. Upon receiving the flowers our Indian friend was bit confused.
“Is this for me?” He asked.
“Of course, silly” she said. “It is for you.”
“But I am not a typical Indian,” he said. “I do not do Puja. Why would I need flower for?”
I am not going to repeat her reaction or response here.
I admit that there are occasions when I refused to accept box of chocolate as gift on heath ground from people I admired, or argued that rose stems are just dead plants with people I was infatuated with. So when it comes to it, none of us is out of danger. All we can do is not try too hard to woo woe.



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hmm..indian men dont know to woo but still get enough women and sex to create a huge population..
that is something aint it
we just go directly to the sex I guess
His first question to the prospective bride was this: “Do you know how to program in C?”
this one had me ROFLOLing.
Good stuff all around.
To BongoP’o'ndit:
I am glad that you found it funny. Thanks for the comment.
-helloji.
This is a well-written article enjoyed it. But I do think you are being a little harsh on your assessment of Indian men. After all, it is not *only* Indian men who are clueless about romance, but frankly most men are that way. For most men, romance is not something hardwired in their brains, certainly not the way it is in women. If a woman wants romance from her husband/bf, she’d have to start training them to do things the way she likes, just like in your story about the woman bringing her bf flowers. I am sure the man his lesson afterwards. There is no other way about it
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well..i would say it is a well written article. However I would not totally agree on all aspects about indian men not being able to woo a female.
When you wrote this article, you were looking at your personal experiences/ and the things that you have seen around. Like the mythological stories you mentioned and the movies, its all that you have seen. While analyzing the abilities of indian men, you have to take into consideration the culture as well. The idea of romance/valentine day/giving gifts etc etc comes with modern civilization and money, rise in demands (from women).
Moreover, do not forget “kamasutra” came from this land. and kamasutra is just not about sex but about romance/love. All the kings/rulers had many wives and all were happy (atleast most of them).
Can you tell me the craze of Valentine’s day in india around 10 years back ? Why is that we still have arranged marriages in india ? Why are there still very succesful arranged marriages ? Its not that women are still obedient enuf to listen to their husbands like they used to in earlier days ? Why are women not willing to be a little adventurous and go out with guys ? There is a big cultural difference between EU and USA and thats why from an outsiders perspective it feels like what you have written.
Rofl
I love this article – gorgeous! I could not stop laughing. Beautifully written – encore, encore!
I completely agree with one of the comments which says that I guess romance is not hardwired into men’s brains. We men pretty much live in a world of practicality and WIIFM kind of thing (what’s in it for me). Until and unless we see some kind of massive material gain in gifting, we aren’t gonna waste some time, money and effort in wooing a woman.
Cheers…..Jam
….hehehe this one strikes a chord.. and its daunting to be the female in situations like this -if all romantic gestures are evaluated on functionality and practicality, it sorts of er..takes away the romance from the gesture doesnt it? ( as the poor european girl discovered!)
commodification of romance,an ideal vehical to market so many brands to theeeeeee target maket ,people with a high dispoable income,thats what valentines day is all about in India at the moment.Romance is something like grass it will always somehow grow in whatever circumstances,impoversied or lavish, it is a state of mind,not resticted to any age or community.Though not so obvious as in the west,there is always an undercurrent of romance in India,men here may be awakward yet I think that suits the Indian women because even today most couples are made for life.A bit of sensetivity is all that requried and you wuold see a husband packing an extra somosa for his obase wife,or waiting patiently outside the beauty parlour,or to put the phone down,I have noticed that men relish situations where their spouse are totally involved! I think thats Valentine in the Rama Land
ROFL! Can’t believe someone can be this dumb. Very nice blog btw.
Very nice article and very apt. Brilliant!
Hey…………………A real good piece.Keep up the great writing style.
funny real funny
Taking the Valentine part out of it discussion, Krishna is not a womanizer. Gopica’s are souls of you and me trying to reach Lord Krishna.
You need to really read and understand our epics and later you realize your misconception on our great Purana’s. I know I am drifting away from the topic, but you got know the true reality.
While the world is trying to dig more about our epics, we are making jokes of them.
Nice write up though.
Thank you all for taking time out of your busy lives to read, and then take more to comment. We really appreciate it. If it made you laugh, grin, or even smile, I would say mission accomplish. But a word of worry to those engaged in any ROFL type activities: hope you all are fine and did not hurt yourselves.
Life is stressful as it is, and Valentine’s Day adds a few pounds on that for most of us. A little touch of lightness may be a relief. We are doing this just to have a friendly conversation: have a laugh, have a bit of fun. Thanks to all of you.
To vettipayal: I would never doubt the prowess of Indian men for procreation. They surely are prolific. But sometimes it pays not to rush to the end. As in life, there are things where the journey is more enjoyable than the destination.
To LogicGirl: My apology for being harsh. But then again, I am not from the gentler half. I have talked about only Indian men, since my experience is mostly limited to them. Yes, we are in perpetual training mode. But do not worry we are in good hands. We are grateful to all of them: our mothers, aunts, sisters, wives, and our daughters for their endless responsibility. On an aside, nice blog. I feel much safer under those watchful eyes – not scary like when big brother was watching.
To AD: I am not sure I understood your point. The women are at fault? They are not obedient like they used to be? Or they are not adventurous like they should be? Or you want both? I am not sure. But I would pass the advice along to the women in my life.
To euphonos: Thank you for the encouraging words.
To Jam: Romance need not be a selfless act. It is just how the game is played. I have nothing against gain. The question is simply what I the gain. How about making someone we love feel special? And when it comes to gain, maybe it is all about short term versus long term.
To A Cynic In Wonderland: Agreed. There is that magical quality to it. Like magic, humor and beauty, the charm is gone when we add explanations and analysis. But I have faith in women; they can handle it no matter how daunting the situation is. They always do.
To sunita: No argument here. A lasting relation takes more then romance. But it surely adds color. I am sure there are Indian husbands that care deeply about their wives. True expressions are harder than the easy way out that expensive provides us. Though I would have never guessed encouraging ones already obese wife to eat unhealthy food can be considered romantic. You learn everyday.
To Ruhi, Ish, Anuradha, and La Vida Loca: Thank you for your kind words.
To Satya: Thank you for keeping us honest. I never read Puranas. It is not my fault. It seems Vivekananda, and this guy read those books, had to this to say: “Young men must be strong. You will be nearer to heaven through football than through the study of the Gita.”
Well in my defense I played a lot of football. But on serious note, I have a feeling the great Puranas can withstand a few cheap laugh at their expense.
Helloji, I am sorry. I was under the impression you were a fellow female! I penned my take on Valentine’s Day awhile ago in my blog. When you have the time, please do check it out. I would also like to add your blog on my page (as one of my blog favourites). You really have done an oustanding job here. I’m going to check out your other articles.
As they say: Men have no romantic nerves in them. I guess this is true across a variety of cultures. Maybe it is just because men tend to be more logican and women are just more on the mushy emotional side of life.
Nice article you got here by the way. Very profound and well expressed.
Im still laughing…will write a proper comment once i stop.


at last someone accepted Indian Men have no clue where romance begins and where it ends…or how to keep romance alive..unending!!! Loved it…
HelloJi, after reading this article, my impression is u may be a feminist or a female who is an atheist and may be an NRI who is impressed with westren culture too. Please understand that today is tomorrows past. U have to accept it and some concepts lies beyond visible proof. Thanks for telling sincerely u have never read puranas but u r criticising them as ur wish, may be because of ur right to express given by indian constitution. Why cant u try to enter indian politics where u can do what ever u want ? It may click for you.
Absolutely hilarious!
And can people stop getting their knickers in a twist and just enjoy the humor in this blog entry? Sheesh.
To LogicGirl: My apology for the confusion. I will surely check out the post. We are delighted to be on your favorite list. We are also glad to add you on ours.
To benenibadoodles: Thank your kind words. We are happy that you enjoyed it.
To Amit: We are more than happy to make you laugh. Anything else would be the icing on the cake. Thank you.
To hardeep: Acceptance is the first step towards recovery. Hope things get better with time.
To Vijaya Bharat: I am impressed that you spent so much time thinking of me. Thank you. It surely is soothing to my ego. Just one thing, I am not sure if we really need constitutional protection to white a post. Should not the constitution be busy doing other things, say protecting people from communal riots? I thought India was a country where people such as Dalai Lama can come and live. It is a place of tolerance. I thought we are different than those who forces likes of Salmon Rushdie to hide. Or those who plot to kill a cartoonist. What do you think Puranas say on this topic? But thanks again, especially the tip about the carrier choice. As they say great things in life are free.
To Preeti: Thank you. I have a suspicion that Britain has stronger influence on your language than average Indian. I am not sure if we are genetically prone to getting our thing in a twist. Maybe the wise men from the days of Puranas knew that, and traditionally, we had avoided the use of it until the Western culture corrupted us. It makes you think.
Ok…i have stopped laughing finally. First of all, the thought process which went into making this post is commendable. Excellent post. Secondly, whatever I have observed in the past few years, the trend seems to be changing…thanks to the western influences. Hopefully a new pukka romantic Indian male will emerge soon. AMEN.
I find this post really silly. A typical case of extrapolation from nothing.
I dont agree that we are different from others. We are having many people who kill others on the name of religion, state etc for their personal growth. We are having psychos who want to divide states for their political growth. There are lot who are encouraging these social insects. I bet that if you really understand purans, u will know how the society changes by time and will know different kinds of people and their thoughts in various circumstances. Learning everything only from personal experiences is not good for anyone. If belief on God also not there in our society, we might have gone into vains long back itself. Thanks for the beautiful family culture injected into our blood by birth by the elders which is restricting us to do lot of mistakes.
To Amit: We are relieved. As for the hope for the pukka romantic, we are keeping our fingers crossed. Thanks.
To Hiakugirl: We would take silly any day. At least, I hope it did not offed you. No argument on your analysis.
To Vijaya Bharat: That is one of the beauties of India: we have diversity. I understand you have a different view. We respect that. We also respect our view of the world as well.
That diversity should not lead to ‘die’versity. Thats my wish. Let us hope that ur view dominates my view.
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The line about harrassment was great! One thing i found is that NRI Indian women have a secret longing for Bollywood style romance, to be chased/harrassed no matter how they mistreat the man.